tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post355343948268224956..comments2024-02-19T09:05:53.444-08:00Comments on Akit's Complaint Department: Folks, Don't Swipe Your Clipper CardAkithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-73627911776843618522012-06-29T16:11:50.591-07:002012-06-29T16:11:50.591-07:00On my card, the chip inside the card is in the sam...On my card, the chip inside the card is in the same place as the point of the largest trianlge in the design, near where it reads "Clipper". I find it useful to touch that bit to the reader, and it works every time.mjphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02478342367807419806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-51154871813099257972011-03-24T01:12:59.734-07:002011-03-24T01:12:59.734-07:00I noticed the impact of this tag-required procedur...I noticed the impact of this tag-required procedure today. At rush hour, the Metro cards fill up. With the current paper pass, one can enter the available space next to the middle door and just stand there - especially if you're getting off in a stop or two. With the Clipper and tag requirement, one has to push through the standing-room-only crowd to the other side of the train in order to tag (the reader isn't on the same side as the open doors when the train is at a platform). <br /><br />It's a hassle for the tagger and for everybody standing around them. And believe me, when you enter the middle or rear door of a standing-room-only Metro car, the driver has no clue you exist, not to mention whether you've tagged successfully - even more so when you enter the second car of a two-car train. If you've paid for a monthly pass, it seems pointless. <br /><br />I guess this is yet another way Nathaniel Ford earns his $300K+?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-21206560318642682362011-02-23T13:26:59.812-08:002011-02-23T13:26:59.812-08:00I agree with Anon above that it's more of a wh...I agree with Anon above that it's more of a why the rule that doesn't make any sense than what the rule says. <br />It's a waste of time to try to interpret the rule just for the sake of rule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-30560173523800573452011-02-23T13:13:08.663-08:002011-02-23T13:13:08.663-08:00Point taken. I'm only interpreting what the r...Point taken. I'm only interpreting what the rules are.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-50262246028171674392011-02-23T13:11:29.662-08:002011-02-23T13:11:29.662-08:00I appreciate you taking the time to reply, but I d...I appreciate you taking the time to reply, but I don't think you're getting my point.<br /><br />The old folks on the 30 aren't breaking the law. They are paying customers, most with a Senior Fast Pass. They are simply expediting the boarding process by boarding in both the front & back doors (bus drivers permit this by opening the back door). If you made them all funnel through the front door, it would increase the boarding time by at least double. My main beef with them is that they often try to board the back before allowing people to exit.<br /><br />So I board the back door of a metro - what's the point of tagging? Does it save the city money by eliminating the need for a fare inspector? no. Does it help w/ Muni's analytics (measuring ridership, etc.) ? Perhaps, but there's other ways of doing this. Does it create a bottleneck? You bet.<br /><br />My point is simple. I dont think monthly fares should have to tag. We're paying customers. Let us board without having to wait behind the tourist learning how to tag, and let us get out of the way of people boarding behind us. From what I can tell, it has no bearing on the enforcement of the law. Fare inspectors on the metro will still need to scan a card to see the balance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-49732043648113039442011-02-23T12:48:13.416-08:002011-02-23T12:48:13.416-08:00If you are boarding a metro train on the surface, ...If you are boarding a metro train on the surface, board any door and tag the card to the reader.<br /><br />As for the old folks on the 30 Stockton, they know they are breaking the law and will eventually get caught. That means, you shouldn't do it.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-61464689614930240312011-02-23T12:24:46.489-08:002011-02-23T12:24:46.489-08:00What about light rail platforms above ground, wher...What about light rail platforms above ground, where riders can board through any door - not just the front, which passes the driver? Or the 30 Stockton, where little old ladies flood through the back door? Are you telling me that (a) someone will monitor those entrances, or (b) will everyone be forced to use the front door, thus passing a driver.<br /><br />Do you get my point?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-70418999645653384272011-02-23T12:17:02.337-08:002011-02-23T12:17:02.337-08:00You are not getting the point. Every passenger th...You are not getting the point. Every passenger that enters a vehicle with a Clipper card must tag their card at the reader REGARDLESS if they are paying with e-cash or have a valid pass. No bus driver will let anyone through without demonstrating they have a valid fare by tapping their card, paying cash at the fare box, or showing a transfer.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-33767820136619890742011-02-23T11:39:55.912-08:002011-02-23T11:39:55.912-08:00So the driver is expected to compare the number of...So the driver is expected to compare the number of 'tags' to the number of bodies in the vehicle?<br /><br />Are fare inspectors the only ones still responsible for issuing tickets? If so, they're still going to need to swipe everyone's card to confirm the last time they tagged in.<br /><br />I've never skirted paying a fare - that's not the reason for my questions. It just seems like all this does is add process, without any major benefit to fast pass riders or fare inspectors. Today I can simply flash my paper pass (which shows that I'm paid for the entire month at a glance), taking up a fraction of the fare inspector's time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-37491039792139806572011-02-23T09:22:36.480-08:002011-02-23T09:22:36.480-08:00For fast pass, yes, you need to tag your card ever...For fast pass, yes, you need to tag your card every single time you board a Muni vehicle or enter a metro station.<br /><br />It's necessary because the bus driver must verify every passenger that enter his/her door has paid their fare, or entered with a pass or transfer.<br /><br />At the metro stations with gates, you have no choice but to tag your card.<br /><br />Failure to tag with a monthly pass is a gray zone. It's better do be safe and do it.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-6591524824303885532011-02-23T09:04:22.348-08:002011-02-23T09:04:22.348-08:00I'm a monthly fast pass holder until next mont...I'm a monthly fast pass holder until next month when I'll be forced to switch to clipper. If I load my clipper card with the monthly fare, compared to paying as I go, must I still tag the card each time I board? If so, can you tell me why? And if I don't, yet still pay the monthly fare, what repercussions do I face? I'm still a paying customer. <br /><br />What's so hard about tagging? Nothing but it's seems like an unnecessary bottleneck when dozens of riders are trying to jam through a 3-foot entrance. Ever ride the 30 Stockton?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-82785186483270266922010-11-03T23:05:40.719-07:002010-11-03T23:05:40.719-07:00LOL. Reading the comments, is just as funny as act...LOL. Reading the comments, is just as funny as actually watching it. <br /><br />I keep mine in my wallet and just put my wallet on the reader till it beeps. (This works on any reader MUNI, AC Transit, BART, Golden Gate Ferry, etc)Chrishttp://twitter.com/wikkideclipsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-77389885227959988532010-08-13T14:58:30.141-07:002010-08-13T14:58:30.141-07:00Thanks for the compliment! Always happy to help.Thanks for the compliment! Always happy to help.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-83424934192042629142010-08-13T14:49:27.394-07:002010-08-13T14:49:27.394-07:00Thank you so much! Oh my god!
I used my Clipper ...Thank you so much! Oh my god! <br /><br />I used my Clipper Card for the first time on Muni this morning, and I was totally one of those embarrassed people holding up the line wondering what the hell was wrong with the reader! Especially, because it reads so much easier at the Bart stations. I think what I was doing wrong was not holding it steady and waiting for the beep. I just kept doing a touch-and-go movement. <br />Anyway, I am eager to do it the correct way and I feel a bit more confident using it now. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-26045293605986718002010-06-20T03:09:29.913-07:002010-06-20T03:09:29.913-07:00I've seen many many people do exactly what you...I've seen many many people do exactly what you SPECIFICALLY said not do. It's often quite hilarious when the reader does the triple beep and the rider is left wondering what they did wrong.<br /><br />I picked up a Clipper card earlier this afternoon to give my TransLink and EZ Rider cards some company. After reading your posts, I'm eager to test out the Clipper as you mention the tag time is faster than the TransLink card.eggowonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419268236163897948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-82130608061048601852010-06-18T07:11:21.775-07:002010-06-18T07:11:21.775-07:00It's my pleasure. Sorry to hear you had to ru...It's my pleasure. Sorry to hear you had to run around to find a place that had it available.Akithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905273274257369338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4714426597280694490.post-49870235946873581822010-06-18T05:44:58.909-07:002010-06-18T05:44:58.909-07:00Thanks. I just got my Clipper card. SFMTA customer...Thanks. I just got my Clipper card. SFMTA customer service office didn't have any cards. I had to go to 5 different Walgreens before finding one. As a first time user,your info has been invaluable.sfsmskaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06689981873338209872noreply@blogger.com